Herping, Then to Now, Autobiographical

topic posted Fri, November 12, 2004 - 1:11 PM by  George
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When I entered high school in the early 1950's I became a member of the school's Reptile Club which was sponcered by the biology dept. This gave me the opportunity to meet other people who were interesting in herping. Some of us used mount expeditions to the L.A. river. The department soon had a number of live exhibits of local herps. During that period many of the lizards (mostly Sceloporus occidentalis) that I captured were brought home and released in my backyard. As my dad was a civil engineer and always had some home building project going on there were lumber and brick piles available for them to take up residence in. Thus all I had to do to watch lizards was to go outside during the warmer months. I had mentioned on another topic that toads and treefrogs were abundant. I would come home in the evening during that time and find 20 or so toads gathered on the backyard lawn in a big circle facing inwards. When my presence disturbed them they would turn around and all hop away in different directions. The basis of some folk legends?

Also, during that time I acquired a desert tortise from a local vacant lot. These critters are escape artists and one needs a fully enclosed area that they cannot dig out of to keep them I found. I had much better luck with a box turtle I sent away for via mail order. She lived in the backyard for several years doing quite well on fallen fruit, snails, and slugs. It was in the time period I began to expand my hunting grounds to the desert. WOW!
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  • Re: Herping, Then to Now, Autobiographical

    Sat, November 13, 2004 - 12:30 PM
    I thought I would take a moment to interject this thought. The "coin of the realm" on E-lists, tribes, etc is INFORMATION exchange. People who engage in "herping" have a lot of it. For one thing many of us spend time out there in "search mode" learning things not only about the animals we are interested in, but also about how they adapt to their environment and further what that environment consists of. These often are adventures which can be shared. So in the spirit of information exchange here is another web site you can post to if you don't already know about it: www.venomdoc.com/forums

    A little bit of the "now" in the title of this topic.
  • Re: Herping, Then to Now, Autobiographical

    Tue, November 16, 2004 - 11:10 AM
    Back in the 1950's enclosures were a bit hard to come by. You couldn't go to your local pet store and pick up any type of aquarium or cage that fit your needs. What was available was also a bit pricey so I began to build my own. The one that sticks in my mind was made out of a fairly heavy wooden packing crate. I had nailed on runners for glass to slide in. The front was in three layers. The bottom was a long glass strip. On top of that was another glass strip and at the top was screening. It was about 3' x 18" x 18" and sat outside on an old tarpaper chicken coop. The substrata in it was sand with some rocks positioned around. The middle glass strip could be slid open and live flies and other insects introduced to feed the colony of lizards I kept in it. Being outside it was positioned so it always had some sunlight and still have a portion shaded. The tarpaper coop it rested on retained heat during the night. Crude but effective. Prior to becoming a community lizard cage it housed a 6' gopher snake for a year before I released it. (Remember I had to catch the mice I fed it.)

    Some friends invited me for a weekend in the Mojave desert and introduced me to the art of noosing lizards. When I returned home my lizard collection had expanded a lot. It now included a number of zebra-tailed lizards (Callisaurus draconoides), Fringe-toed lizards (Uma scoparia), Side-blotched (Uta stansburiana), Western whiptail (Cnemidophorous tigris), Desert horned lizard (Phrynosoma platyrhinos) are some that I remember. Some of these due to their particular needs I would not attempt to maintain presently. Back then there was not a lot of literature on husbandry and most of it was learned "hands-on". Btw, a book, "Lizards in Captivity" by Richard H. Wynne, published by T.F.H. Publications 1981, is a pretty good handbook for beginner lizard keepers.
    • Re: Herping, Then to Now, Autobiographical

      Sat, November 20, 2004 - 12:42 PM
      In 1958 I had turned 21 and worked that summer as a camp counselor before I went into the army. The camp was located in the Santa Cruz, California, mountains. I had hired on to take charge of the livestock as well as several young campers. We had horses, goats, sheep, pigs, rabbits, and poultry and it was a real learning experience for a group of young urbanites. The area was also rich in reptile and other wildlife. A field extended out from the ranch house and deer could be seen feeding there almost every evening. We also had coyotes, foxes, raccoons, possums, bobcats, all kinds of rodents, and a neighborhood mountain lion. It was in this setting I captured and kept my first "hot" a northern pacific rattlesnake, (Crotalis viridis oreganus). It was a juvenile I found near the house and it spent the summer residing in a 40 gal trash can being fed mice and lizards (Sceloporus) which were very abundant. At the end of the summer after the campers had left and the place was closing down I took it out in a field and released it. It grew a lot over the summer.

      Other herps that we collected that summer were gopher snakes (Pituophis melanoleucus), Common kingsnakes (Lampropeltis getulus), a Calif mountain kingsnake (Lampropeltis zonata), striped racers (Masticophis lateralis) and some garter snakes which we didn't try to maintain. Outside of the sceloporus the two other varieties of lizards I remember were the northern alligator lizard (Gerrhonotis coeruleus) and the western skink (Eumedes skiltonianus). There we also two amphibians of note that we often found, the Pacific giant salamander (Dicomptodon ensatus) and the tiger salamander (Ambystomids tigrinum californiense).

      The collecting efforts created a need for enclosures which were box like affairs fronted with hardware cloth, 1/4" mesh screening. We also made a lot of live traps for rodents. These were constructed of coffee or number 10 cans with a wood mouse trap wired inside of it and a piece of hardware cloth big enough to cover the opening to the can wired to the snapper. These were placed in the barn and adjacent areas and their yields fed the snakes.

      It was a great summer and both myself and the young campers learned a lot from hands-on experience. I returned to Southern California and shortly thereafter went into the army. The next installment will begin the the 1960's. It was then that "herping" began to really come into its own.
      • Re: Herping, Then to Now, Autobiographical

        Mon, November 22, 2004 - 2:19 PM
        I started to get back into "herping" in the middle 1960's. One of the first animals I acquired was a rather ailing young iguana. I bought it from a pet store where it was being kept in a dark area and showed symptoms of respitory problems as well as having a broken tail. Purchase price, one dollar. I took it home and set up a large piece of driftwood in front of a window that admitted sun all day. That was to be its home. It never was caged. I then force fed it a 1/4 of a hundred milligram multivit pill. I did this daily for about week. One day the iguana descended from its perch and ate my wife's flower arrangement. There were no more feeding problems after that. The lizard ate out of a bowl in the kitchen, leafy greens and cut up summer squash. It began to grow and its tail started to regenerate. It even became "paper trained'. Sort of like having a long green cat. We had her for several years and she moved twice with us.

        My wife and I moved to a two bedroom apartment and I began to become more deeply involved in herping. I discovered a store called "Hermosa Reptile" located in Hermosa Beach, California. It was the first reptile specialty store I had encountered back then. In those days pretty much everything was wild caught with the exception of turtles. You could also buy indigenous species over the counter. Hermosa Reptile imported from all over the world and reptiles were not the only type of animals. They were a major supplier for several zoos and sold wholesale to other pet stores. I bought lizards from Central & South America as well as my first poison arrow frogs from them. It was the first place where I found day geckos for sale. I made friends with a young black leopard at that store. The store also bought rattlesnakes to sell to collectors in Europe so one could do some trading. Did I mention they carried "hots"?

        During this period I also became a member of Southwestern Herpetologists Society which at that time was located in Orange County, California. Most of the members were young and it was like attending a reptile swap meet. Not a whole lot of money exchange, but lots and lots of trading. My collection of indigenous lizards expanded hugely, many that I'd never seen before outside of a book. A few months later I became president of the society and one of the young members of our governing board was years later to become curator of mammals for the Los Angeles Zoo. Speaking of trading at that location I remember one evening when the owners of Hermosa Reptile showed up and traded even across juvenile boa constrictors for Calif. kingsnakes.

        If you have any questions or comments please feel free.
        • Re: Herping, Then to Now, Autobiographical

          Sun, January 23, 2005 - 7:01 AM
          I got into herping at age 8, when my Grandparents bought me a pair on American Anoles, and later, a couple of Green Iguanas, then a baby Spectacled Caiman (much to my parent's displeasure!)...I'm sorry to say that none of these lived very long, though.

          Later, when my Grandfather passed on, I inherited his Hermann's Tortoise ("Jennifer") and had her for the next 19 years.

          As soon as I was out on my own, I bought myself a Columbian Red-Tailed boa, then a small retic python and have been keeping various herps ever since!

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